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		<title>By: blog.rotracker.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MMO Bubble Bursting? There Is No Bubble!</title>
		<link>http://www.therandomforest.com/2008/04/17/when-bloggers-attack/#comment-1750</link>
		<dc:creator>blog.rotracker.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MMO Bubble Bursting? There Is No Bubble!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the debate/flame war, feel free to drop by Garry&#8217;s blog, or have a look a what we had to say about the issue over here. (Our comment there might still be in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the debate/flame war, feel free to drop by Garry&#8217;s blog, or have a look a what we had to say about the issue over here. (Our comment there might still be in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: humorous stories</title>
		<link>http://www.therandomforest.com/2008/04/17/when-bloggers-attack/#comment-1748</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 11:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up for himself in a niche filled with jerks. Told through a humorous story with amusing pictures.http://www.therandomforest.com/2008/04/17/when-bloggers-attack/A and A Resume - Humorous Interviewing StoriesHumorous articles on what can happen during a job [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] up for himself in a niche filled with jerks. Told through a humorous story with amusing pictures.http://www.therandomforest.com/2008/04/17/when-bloggers-attack/A and A Resume - Humorous Interviewing StoriesHumorous articles on what can happen during a job [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.therandomforest.com/2008/04/17/when-bloggers-attack/#comment-1589</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am happy you approved my comment and for the response. I don't own a site or blog. I am a reader of around 10 blogs and 3 of them were related to this mess. I wanted to voice out. You provided me the ground. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am happy you approved my comment and for the response. I don&#8217;t own a site or blog. I am a reader of around 10 blogs and 3 of them were related to this mess. I wanted to voice out. You provided me the ground. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.therandomforest.com/2008/04/17/when-bloggers-attack/#comment-1448</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Dave.

Thanks for stopping by... Firstly, I do believe in Freedom of Speech. But I also believe that a blog is your personal space. Let's just say it's not a blog and that it is a pub.

So Garry Conn the OWNER of let's say... the "Bloggers Arms", the finest drinking establishment in his area has the right, as the landlord, to say what he wants in his bar. If you come in and sit as his bar.... and let's say you said a political view he disagreed with. He has the total RIGHT to either discuss the matter further, or ask that you leave the establishment.

Our blog is our own. Personally I approve most comments, good or bad, but that is my choice. I deleted one line from you comment.

My re-buttle to your list.....
1. Yes he did, so did I. I don't take bad points against my blog personally but I realized that most other bloggers do. Sadly I have a minor regret about some of the stuff I said. I don't hate Bob (John Cow) but I have been displeased with his webiste and I was trying to express that. Nothing personal but it got personal for some reason.
2. Yes he did, I even got a few, I don't feel guilty about that. I am a blogger, I am looking for alliances and back links. I also want to make money.
3. Every blogger wants attention. Are you a member of blog catalog, entrecard or any traffic system?? If you don't want attention then just keep a personal diary or make your site subscriber access only.
4. Everyone wants to solve this....
5. Traffic is a constant problem for anyone. You have to keep the material and promotion up. Yes these kind of posts can help.
6. Garry is yet to have conned me. If he ever does, I will talk to him personally, if that fails I will rant. Most products he promotes come with full money back guarantees so you can't really be conned by that aspect. Also I think I am very different from him but love visiting his site. We can be friends, have disagreements and still co-exist. People are people. Take David Cooley, a good friend of Garry. They constantly disagree on many subjects. Our blog is our opinion.
7. Well, well done to him. Mine was only half success :). I jumped in because I felt the need to. I don't know what will be the next controversial subject to rile me in such a way.
8. What does this even mean? I am going to call my self c-list forest from now on. LISTEN ALL YOU BLOGGERS OUT THER, YOU SHALL CALL ME BY THAT NAME OTHERWISE I WILL NOT REPLY! Garry has never called him self an A-lister, as far as I can see. And so what if he did? He has given me some invaluable advice over the last few months, more than any A-lister. I read John Chow briefly.... no luck there. I got sick of T-shirts on Shoe Money but did find his advice pretty cool. I have never even visited Vic's site and will not. Caroline's sounds appealing, she seems like all mistakes are documented and I like that approach.

Now a question for you? What is your blog URL? JohnPark.com does not work? Who are you?

And back o a point made earlier. I am glad you came by to comment. I like all angles of comment on this blog and will always try to answer honestly.

Now....

@Mr Cow, Sorry I still never gave that FULL reply I promised. I thought about it and kind of realized I had said pretty much everything. If you want some more explanation for anything I have said then please do put in another comment or you can chat to me on GTalk (Anything said would be private). I might have said horrible things but I am not in this for any battling or war. I always try to be honest though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dave.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by&#8230; Firstly, I do believe in Freedom of Speech. But I also believe that a blog is your personal space. Let&#8217;s just say it&#8217;s not a blog and that it is a pub.</p>
<p>So Garry Conn the OWNER of let&#8217;s say&#8230; the &#8220;Bloggers Arms&#8221;, the finest drinking establishment in his area has the right, as the landlord, to say what he wants in his bar. If you come in and sit as his bar&#8230;. and let&#8217;s say you said a political view he disagreed with. He has the total RIGHT to either discuss the matter further, or ask that you leave the establishment.</p>
<p>Our blog is our own. Personally I approve most comments, good or bad, but that is my choice. I deleted one line from you comment.</p>
<p>My re-buttle to your list&#8230;..<br />
1. Yes he did, so did I. I don&#8217;t take bad points against my blog personally but I realized that most other bloggers do. Sadly I have a minor regret about some of the stuff I said. I don&#8217;t hate Bob (John Cow) but I have been displeased with his webiste and I was trying to express that. Nothing personal but it got personal for some reason.<br />
2. Yes he did, I even got a few, I don&#8217;t feel guilty about that. I am a blogger, I am looking for alliances and back links. I also want to make money.<br />
3. Every blogger wants attention. Are you a member of blog catalog, entrecard or any traffic system?? If you don&#8217;t want attention then just keep a personal diary or make your site subscriber access only.<br />
4. Everyone wants to solve this&#8230;.<br />
5. Traffic is a constant problem for anyone. You have to keep the material and promotion up. Yes these kind of posts can help.<br />
6. Garry is yet to have conned me. If he ever does, I will talk to him personally, if that fails I will rant. Most products he promotes come with full money back guarantees so you can&#8217;t really be conned by that aspect. Also I think I am very different from him but love visiting his site. We can be friends, have disagreements and still co-exist. People are people. Take David Cooley, a good friend of Garry. They constantly disagree on many subjects. Our blog is our opinion.<br />
7. Well, well done to him. Mine was only half success :). I jumped in because I felt the need to. I don&#8217;t know what will be the next controversial subject to rile me in such a way.<br />
8. What does this even mean? I am going to call my self c-list forest from now on. LISTEN ALL YOU BLOGGERS OUT THER, YOU SHALL CALL ME BY THAT NAME OTHERWISE I WILL NOT REPLY! Garry has never called him self an A-lister, as far as I can see. And so what if he did? He has given me some invaluable advice over the last few months, more than any A-lister. I read John Chow briefly&#8230;. no luck there. I got sick of T-shirts on Shoe Money but did find his advice pretty cool. I have never even visited Vic&#8217;s site and will not. Caroline&#8217;s sounds appealing, she seems like all mistakes are documented and I like that approach.</p>
<p>Now a question for you? What is your blog URL? JohnPark.com does not work? Who are you?</p>
<p>And back o a point made earlier. I am glad you came by to comment. I like all angles of comment on this blog and will always try to answer honestly.</p>
<p>Now&#8230;.</p>
<p>@Mr Cow, Sorry I still never gave that FULL reply I promised. I thought about it and kind of realized I had said pretty much everything. If you want some more explanation for anything I have said then please do put in another comment or you can chat to me on GTalk (Anything said would be private). I might have said horrible things but I am not in this for any battling or war. I always try to be honest though!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.therandomforest.com/2008/04/17/when-bloggers-attack/#comment-1425</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garry obviously is a good entrepreneur and a very successful one indeed. Take for the example, the MMO post. Garry achieved a lot -

1. Garry took out his frustration, at someone else's cost. Garry's own words "And to be quite honest, I’ve had more fun in the last 24 hours on my blog than I have had in a while". The intention is clear.
2. Garry got a ton of backlinks
3. Garry got the attention he was dying for since many months
4. Garry's main agony of nobody commenting on his blog solved.
5. Garry's traffic problem is eliminated.
6. Garry made a ton of like minded friends, who think like the Con-man.
7. Garry had his first successful linkbait and viral post.
8. Garry gets an entry ticket to the A-List that he has been calling himself since months. A-Lister Garry. 

I don't know if you believe in freedom of speech Forest, because I posted this comment at Garry and he deleted it, instead of approving it, obviously because he knew the above was right. Guilt sucks.

*** I have deleted one line here (Forest) ***

Lets see if you approve it. Will be great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garry obviously is a good entrepreneur and a very successful one indeed. Take for the example, the MMO post. Garry achieved a lot -</p>
<p>1. Garry took out his frustration, at someone else&#8217;s cost. Garry&#8217;s own words &#8220;And to be quite honest, I’ve had more fun in the last 24 hours on my blog than I have had in a while&#8221;. The intention is clear.<br />
2. Garry got a ton of backlinks<br />
3. Garry got the attention he was dying for since many months<br />
4. Garry&#8217;s main agony of nobody commenting on his blog solved.<br />
5. Garry&#8217;s traffic problem is eliminated.<br />
6. Garry made a ton of like minded friends, who think like the Con-man.<br />
7. Garry had his first successful linkbait and viral post.<br />
8. Garry gets an entry ticket to the A-List that he has been calling himself since months. A-Lister Garry. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you believe in freedom of speech Forest, because I posted this comment at Garry and he deleted it, instead of approving it, obviously because he knew the above was right. Guilt sucks.</p>
<p>*** I have deleted one line here (Forest) ***</p>
<p>Lets see if you approve it. Will be great.</p>
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		<title>By: Comedy Plus</title>
		<link>http://www.therandomforest.com/2008/04/17/when-bloggers-attack/#comment-1302</link>
		<dc:creator>Comedy Plus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this started a firestorm didn't it.  I don't read any of these folks so I just don't care one way or another.  I have noticed that people can get very ugly out here in cyberspace.  It's a shame too.  That's why I don't get involved in these messes.  Not worth it in my opinion.  Have a great day.   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this started a firestorm didn&#8217;t it.  I don&#8217;t read any of these folks so I just don&#8217;t care one way or another.  I have noticed that people can get very ugly out here in cyberspace.  It&#8217;s a shame too.  That&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t get involved in these messes.  Not worth it in my opinion.  Have a great day.   <img src='http://www.therandomforest.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com</title>
		<link>http://www.therandomforest.com/2008/04/17/when-bloggers-attack/#comment-1300</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for visiting &lt;a href="http://www.FullTiltBlogging.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Full Tilt Blogging&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and commenting Forest.

I have mixed feelings about the whole controversy.  When one buys a business it is a "big boy game" and the buyer is responsible for due diligence.   So far I haven't seen the sellers having committed any fraud, just possibly over paying.  I have a right to sell my websites for any price I choose.  No one has to buy them.

Garry believes the sellers misrepresented their traffic.  Maybe they did, maybe not.  To me it looks like they provided the best view of their websites and the buyers took it at face value.

I've been in business a long time and look at any business purchase with a good deal of skepticism. 

Possibly I am not seeing the whole picture here, and feel free to correct me, but acting as if it is fraud seems--to me--a little extreme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for visiting <a href="http://www.FullTiltBlogging.com"><strong>Full Tilt Blogging</strong></a> and commenting Forest.</p>
<p>I have mixed feelings about the whole controversy.  When one buys a business it is a &#8220;big boy game&#8221; and the buyer is responsible for due diligence.   So far I haven&#8217;t seen the sellers having committed any fraud, just possibly over paying.  I have a right to sell my websites for any price I choose.  No one has to buy them.</p>
<p>Garry believes the sellers misrepresented their traffic.  Maybe they did, maybe not.  To me it looks like they provided the best view of their websites and the buyers took it at face value.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been in business a long time and look at any business purchase with a good deal of skepticism. </p>
<p>Possibly I am not seeing the whole picture here, and feel free to correct me, but acting as if it is fraud seems&#8211;to me&#8211;a little extreme.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jimsvarkey</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John Fit, Thanks for stopping by. Never intended a war just wanted to be honest and humorous! I am a very busy bee today so probably won't have a chance to properly reply to Mr Cow's comment until later today or tomorrow but I will reply.

@Jeff and Webdiggin, Blogs like yours will be the future. You both have very different approaches but good minds and I think that if you keep your personal touch then people will keep coming and learning from you.

@Zath, I know it's horrible. I sometimes feel bad about doing paid posts! God know how I would feel if I conned someone out of $10000!

@Garry, I love your blog and you have been nothing but help to me so this stupid war of words won't lose me as a reader. A while back you stayed away from naming people that were dissapointing you and your readers urged you to do it. So your readers asked and you delivered. I respect that.

@John Cow, I will reply hopefully intelligently very soon. Like I am trying to point out I have not been enjoying your blog as you have not been teaching me personally how to make money online. When you first started you were much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John Fit, Thanks for stopping by. Never intended a war just wanted to be honest and humorous! I am a very busy bee today so probably won&#8217;t have a chance to properly reply to Mr Cow&#8217;s comment until later today or tomorrow but I will reply.</p>
<p>@Jeff and Webdiggin, Blogs like yours will be the future. You both have very different approaches but good minds and I think that if you keep your personal touch then people will keep coming and learning from you.</p>
<p>@Zath, I know it&#8217;s horrible. I sometimes feel bad about doing paid posts! God know how I would feel if I conned someone out of $10000!</p>
<p>@Garry, I love your blog and you have been nothing but help to me so this stupid war of words won&#8217;t lose me as a reader. A while back you stayed away from naming people that were dissapointing you and your readers urged you to do it. So your readers asked and you delivered. I respect that.</p>
<p>@John Cow, I will reply hopefully intelligently very soon. Like I am trying to point out I have not been enjoying your blog as you have not been teaching me personally how to make money online. When you first started you were much better.</p>
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